Posted by
Lisa on Saturday, September 16, 2006 10:29:48 PM
here's an excerpt of what president bush said in his november 11th, 2005 speech:
While it's perfectly legitimate to criticize my decision
or the conduct of the war, it is deeply irresponsible to rewrite the
history of how that war began. (Applause.) Some Democrats and anti-war
critics are now claiming we manipulated the intelligence and misled the
American people about why we went to war. These critics are fully aware
that a bipartisan Senate investigation found no evidence of political
pressure to change the intelligence community's judgments related to
Iraq's weapons programs.
They also know that intelligence agencies from around the world
agreed with our assessment of Saddam Hussein. They know the United
Nations passed more than a dozen resolutions citing his development and
possession of weapons of mass destruction. And many of these critics
supported my opponent during the last election, who explained his
position to support the resolution in the Congress this way: "When I
vote to give the President of the United States the authority to use
force, if necessary, to disarm Saddam Hussein, it is because I believe
that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a
threat, and a grave threat, to our security." That's why more than a
hundred Democrats in the House and the Senate - who had access to the
same intelligence - voted to support removing Saddam Hussein from power.
let's look at what some prominent democrats had said in the past about iraq and WMD's, shall we? (credit to sister toldjah in this post.) any italics are my addition. :)
"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them." - Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002
"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and developing weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002
"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam
Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive
regime … He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so
consistently prone to miscalculation … And now he is miscalculating
America's response to his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction … So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real…" - Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003
"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons
and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years … We
also should remember we have always underestimated the progress Saddam
has made in development of weapons of mass destruction." - Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002
"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line." -President Bill Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998
"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is
clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons
of mass destruction program." -President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998
"In the four years
since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam
Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons
stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has
also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al
Qaeda members … It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam
Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons." - Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
what they are saying now:
Sen. Levin:(from the weekly standard blog)
"The intel didn't say that there is a direct connection between al
Qaeda and Iraq," he said in an appearance on Fox News on February 2,
2004. "That was not the intel. That's what this administration
exaggerated to produce."
also: "But, as a matter of fact, when
you look at the statements of the administration prior to the war, over
and over and over again the basis that was used is that Saddam Hussein
has weapons of mass destruction - not programs, not intentions, not
hopes - has weapons of mass destruction in his possession and could use
them against us at any time and could hand them up to terrorists." from
the original FNC transcript from that february 2nd appearance.
interesting, but i'm confused. didn't senator levin say something
similar to what the administration said in the beginning? let's look at
it again. he says that saddam is building WMDs and the means to deliver
them. that sure sounds like an allegation of a program or an intention
to me.
in response to a question about why he voted to kick saddam out of
kuwait when there was a known threat and why he voted to kick saddam
out of iraq when there may not have been a threat, here's what Sen.
Kerry had to say:
Sen. Kerry: (interview with Chris Wallace on FNC quoted here--external link to FNC transcript n/a)
"Now, I'm happy to answer that. I did indeed vote the way I voted in
1991. I thought we ought to kick Saddam Hussein out of Iraq. I said so
on the floor of the Senate. But with the memories of Vietnam, I also
thought we ought to take a couple of months more to build the support
in the country."
"With respect to this time, I voted to give the authority to the
president to use force under a set of promises by the president as to
how he would do it: build a legitimate international coalition, exhaust
the remedies of the United Nations, and go to war as a last resort. He
broke every single one of those promises."
now, i don't see anything in the previously quoted statement that
puts any conditions on his vote. maybe he did put all these conditions
on his vote. if he had these conditions for war before he started
running for president, then i would be willing to correct the record on
this and post it in this space. as to his first point, the
international coalition was larger for Bush 43 than Bush 41. saddam
thumbed his nose at numerous resolutions. as far as the war as a last
resort? well, apparently john kerry doesn't believe his own statements
about saddam. if he did, then he could logically find a legitimate
reason to go to war.
just read the above quotes and compare to current rhetoric. make up
your own mind about the president is just a flame-thrower at the
democrats, or whether what he says about democrats rewriting history
has some ring of truth to it.
tags: saddam, WMD, democrats